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'Standard English' [British]

ADPUF 16 Gen 2017 23:45
Despite being spoken by only 3% of the population, RP is widely
considered as "Standard English"...

http://theconversation.com/how-outdated-stereotypes-about-british-accents-reinforce-the-class-ceiling-43683
http://tinyurl.com/j4ytff4
http://preview.tinyurl.com/j4ytff4


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Tony the Ice Man 17 Gen 2017 04:28
On 01/16/17 2:45 PM, ADPUF wrote:
> Despite being spoken by only 3% of the population, RP is widely
> considered as "Standard English"...
>
>
http://theconversation.com/how-outdated-stereotypes-about-british-accents-reinforce-the-class-ceiling-43683
> http://tinyurl.com/j4ytff4
> http://preview.tinyurl.com/j4ytff4

To be more exact, is spoken by only 3% of the population in England, and
it is widely considered standard English by the British.
Fathermckenzie 17 Gen 2017 15:32
Il 17/01/2017 04:28, Tony the Ice Man ha scritto:

> To be more exact, is spoken by only 3% of the population in England, and
> it is widely considered standard English by the British.

I refer to this as a standard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fy_JRGjc1To



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Respondens autem dicebat illis: “Qui habet duas tunicas,
det non habenti; et, qui habet escas, similiter faciat”.
(Ev. sec. Lucam 3,10-11)
ADPUF 18 Gen 2017 22:24
Tony the Ice Man 04:28, martedì 17 gennaio 2017:
> On 01/16/17 2:45 PM, ADPUF wrote:
>> Despite being spoken by only 3% of the population, RP is
>> widely considered as "Standard English"...
>>
>>
http://theconversation.com/how-outdated-stereotypes-about-british-accents-reinforce-the-class-ceiling-43683
>> http://tinyurl.com/j4ytff4
>> http://preview.tinyurl.com/j4ytff4
>
> To be more exact, is spoken by only 3% of the population in
> England, and it is widely considered standard English by the
> British.


In fact I added [British] to mean that.

And in American usage, is the American standard used by more
than 3% of the population?

Although, it's not so easy to draw a clear border line between
standard and non-standard...


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ADPUF 18 Gen 2017 22:25
Fathermckenzie 15:32, martedì 17 gennaio 2017:
>
> I refer to this as a standard
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fy_JRGjc1To


Beh dicevano che anche Frank S'inatra cantava un ottimo
inglese.

Se anche lo parlava, non so.

Bob Dylan, d'altro canto... (notare il bi-senso :-)


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Tony the Ice Man 19 Gen 2017 02:55
On 01/18/17 1:24 PM, ADPUF wrote:
> And in American usage, is the American standard used by more
> than 3% of the population?
> Although, it's not so easy to draw a clear border line between
> standard and non-standard...

I can claim no expertise on this topic. It would be easy for me to say
that more than 3% of Americans speak in a way that could be
characterized as General American, but my knowledge of subtle issues in
pronunciation patterns is not informed by any serious study.

My ear is pretty good in detecting aberrations in pronunciation but my
skill in reproducing those regional or i*****lectic preferences is not
exceptional and varies by mood, alertness, and concentration, just as
does my Italian pronunciation.

I like accents. I enjoy the their variety and color as long as
comprehension isn't compromised. In fact, I've encouraged Italian ******* not
to try to lose completely their Italian accents when
speaking English, but rather just learn to pronounce "beach" correctly.
sundrybuyers@gmail.com 20 Gen 2017 00:43
On Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 2:55:41 AM UTC+1, Tony the Ice Man wrote:
> just learn to pronounce "beach" correctly

LOL

PS Are you a Joe Dolce fan? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFacWGBJ_cs
ADPUF 21 Gen 2017 23:54
Tony the Ice Man 02:55, giovedì 19 gennaio 2017:
> On 01/18/17 1:24 PM, ADPUF wrote:
>> And in American usage, is the American standard used by more
>> than 3% of the population?
>> Although, it's not so easy to draw a clear border line
>> between standard and non-standard...
>
> I can claim no expertise on this topic. It would be easy for
> me to say that more than 3% of Americans speak in a way that
> could be characterized as General American, but my knowledge
> of subtle issues in pronunciation patterns is not informed by
> any serious study.
>
> My ear is pretty good in detecting aberrations in
> pronunciation but my skill in reproducing those regional or
> i*****lectic preferences is not exceptional and varies by mood,
> alertness, and concentration, just as does my Italian
> pronunciation.
>
> I like accents. I enjoy the their variety and color as long
> as comprehension isn't compromised. In fact, I've encouraged
> Italian ******* not to try to lose completely their Italian
> accents when speaking English, but rather just learn to
> pronounce "beach" correctly.


Well done!


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Fathermckenzie 22 Gen 2017 07:07
Il 21/01/2017 23:54, ADPUF ha scritto:
> ony the Ice Man 02:55, giovedì 19 gennaio 2017:
>> On 01/18/17 1:24 PM, ADPUF wrote:
>>> And in American usage, is the American standard used by more
>>> than 3% of the population?
>>> Although, it's not so easy to draw a clear border line
>>> between standard and non-standard...

Ma secondo voi in Italia l'italiano standard. ammesso che ne esista uno,
+ parlato da più del 3%? E il francese standard in Francia?
Ma nemmeno lo spagnolo, ve'.

(do you think that a standard Italian, if any, is spoken by more than
the 3%? And the French in France? Or Spanish? No way)

--
Et interrogabant eum turbae dicentes: “Quid ergo faciemus?”.
Respondens autem dicebat illis: “Qui habet duas tunicas,
det non habenti; et, qui habet escas, similiter faciat”.
(Ev. sec. Lucam 3,10-11)

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